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My second Pellevé treatment

Pellevé treatment part 2
Is a Solution for:
Sagging Skin
January 26, 2011 Reviewed by Marta 17 Comments

I have just had the second of my  two-part Pellevé treatment. The first was about a month ago and that very evening I was stunned when my husband remarked that my face looked a lot fuller and asked what I’d been doing. Those results were short-lived (a couple of days) and predictably so as results are not supposed to show up for a couple of months when new collagen is formed.

Pellevé Wrinkle Reduction System is a non-invasive treatment that uses high frequency radiowave technology. (You can read more about it and my first session). It is perfectly comfortable, although the skin does get very hot (hence that initial plumping effect). Carissa McCormack at Dr Z. Paul Lorenc, who performed my treatments, likes to get the temperatures to 41°C to achieve the “denaturation” of the collagen.

She generally finds that this is easier to achieve at the second session, when clients seem to bear slightly more heat – probably as a result of just knowing what’s happening (although I dared to hope that my skin is already a little thicker).

As I already mentioned, I’ll have to wait at least another month before I am likely to see results. So I’ll be back with my verdict on Pellevé around the end of February.

NB: Both my treatments were courtesy of the generous and very competent Carissa McCormack.

Read on for the final verdict.

  • August 29, 2012

    by Ellie

    This seems like a good resource, but when a person is not paying for the services or products they are reviewing, don't you think that skews the result/review?

  • April 18, 2012

    by Marta

    Hi Debbie, I am working on a new device. I should be able to announce it by the end of the month. I just don't want to tempt providence by saying too much too soon. Hang in there, we are very close and its pretty exciting.

  • April 17, 2012

    by Debbie

    I am so anxious to hear what this is. I am just a keystroke away from ordering a ReFa or Tripolar Pose!!!! But want to hear what your announcement is. Hate that when you buy something and then something better comes down the pike!!! I need something for skin tightening!

  • April 14, 2012

    by Marta

    Hi Debbie, watch this space. I hope to have something to announce in a few weeks.

  • April 14, 2012

    by Debbie

    What is the "home radiofrequency" device that you have? Can it be purchased?

  • February 10, 2011

    by Bess

    In the interests of full disclosure, I'd like to comment on Christa's good point above about paying/not paying for treatments and recommendations. I am not paying for my treatments, I am in a medical clinical trial administered by DeNova Research in Chicago. DeNova is owned by Dr. Steven Dayan, and I am a longtime patient of the practice, where I have received -- and paid full price for botox treatments. This is the first time I have qualified for and participated in a clinical trial. I was not recruited by DeNova, I voluntarily applied. I had to be examined and meet some physical criteria (wrinkle depth, etc), Also, I had to agree to a specific skin regimen for five months: nothing on my face except Vitamin C, non-treatment moisturizer and sun screen. It sounds easy until you start to thinking: it's the dead of winter, I could use a peel to refresh my parched skin.

    The purpose of the trial -- among other things -- is to determine the number of treatments that will deliver the most effective results. When these medical devices are clinical trialed for the FDA, they actually only trial a small number of people over a short period of time and are looking for safety and enough efficacy to allow the manufacturer to make efficacy claims. The follow on trials, like DeNova, provide more -- and more credible --information that about effective ongoing treatment.

    I've had two treatments, one in November, the second 30 days later, in December. I have follow up observation visits every 30 days through March, for a total of five observations. I am photographed in 3D and compare the before and after results myself. In addition to responding to questions about visible results, I also am asked to evaluate my satisfaction with the treatment and if I would recommend the treatment. This entire process takes place privately; it's just me and the photographer. Then, I am seen and interviewed by the nurse who is running the trial, and then by Dr. Dayan who is evaluating the results based on his own, private medical checklist that is not shared with me.

    It's now been three months since my first treatment and I am seeing visible-to-the-naked eye results around my eyes. What has surprised me -- and this is what has tipped me over the edge and willing to recommend the treatment -- is the firming up and filling out of dynamic wrinkles around my eyes. This is NOT a Botox result, but it is the most active, visible result I've experienced short of using botox. For frame of reference, I had a Cool Touch treatment when it was introduced somewhere around 2002/03 and in 2004, I had a Thermage treatment. I've no other device treatments since then, only botox and the occasional filler.

    As I've written in this space before, my expectations are that the Pelleve will help me to maintain a fresh, healthy, natural- looking middle age appearance right now and help to slow down any facial wrinkling in the future. The Pelleve treatment has exceeded my expectations.

    If these are your expectations, then I confidently can recommend Pelleve.

    PS) I do not know how much Pelleve treatments cost.

  • February 8, 2011

    by marta

    Hi Foxy, the difference between Pelleve and Thermage is the temperature used. There's 20 degrees difference or more. Pelleve seems to work more effectively and at a lower - more comfortable -temperature.

  • February 7, 2011

    by Foxy

    Marta I want to thank you for this website. I was thinking of having Thermage, but then I kept thinking in my head "Why did Marta make that comment about Thermage and collagen damage?" then I started googling facial fat loss...Oh dear! (Look what I found is this for reals?

    I do worry about Pelleve though. Why would it be different from Thermage?

  • February 2, 2011

    by Bess

    About the pain factor, at most it's uncomfortable. The nurse who administered my two treatments took time to work me through how to evaluate levels of discomfort. i was to tell her the second I felt on the verge of uncomfortable, because pain is not good, it suggests you are getting too hot. By my second treatment, the automatic skin temperature monitor cycled off long before I felt uncomfortable. To Marta's good point about patience and time, it will be at least March or April before I can tell you if this treatment justifies the price. Will keep you all posted.

  • January 28, 2011

    by marta

    Stephanie, I also think I was in good hands, You do have to keep the wand moving, otherwise it would be feel uncomfortably hot.

  • January 28, 2011

    by Stephanie

    Hi Marta,
    I did check your first article, re the painlessness of Pelleve', but I still wondered about the pain level and whether you needed pain blockers....

    Thanks for confirming!


  • January 28, 2011

    by marta

    Hi Christa
    Great question. I had every intention of paying but they generously insisted on giving me the treatment. I honestly don't know yet whether I would recommend this as I have to see if there are any real results in a month or so. I'll be doing a follow up post. Right now I can say the early signs are good. But please be patient for now.

  • January 28, 2011

    by christa

    I will assume that you would not recommend this as you said yourself that the "litmus test for recommending anything is whether I would pay for it myself." This post says you did not pay.

  • January 27, 2011

    by Maria

    Hi Marta, I am a big fan of yours. You are doing such a great job here!
    I have bought a personal radiofrequency device and used it in parts of my body.I can definetely say that it works and have seen clearly a tangible tightening. I am afraid though to try it on my face because of the poosible fat melting that may incur during treatment. It can't be much I know but even a little bit is precious for the face area.
    I would love to know your opinion.
    Thank you in advance for your time

  • January 26, 2011

    by Bess

    Hi Marta. It's been two months and five days since my first treatment and five weeks one day since my second treatment. Are you required to use Vitamin C serum? I am. I'm using Skin Cosmetic CE Ferulic or something like that, which I read about on this site as an alternative to Skinceuticals pricey but effective CE Ferulic. I must say: I am seeing visible results from the Pelleve. It's not a Botox result, but it is a visible, tangible and very definite filling out of lines and wrinkles around my eyes. I don't really have any facial wrinkles, only around my eyes. I haven't noticed any tightening of my skin that would lift the slack around my mouth or jowls, but then I didn't expect that either. Let's see how things progress over the next two or three months. I will keep you posted.

    To chime in on the conversation above, Thermage hurt like you know what!! Pelleve was near painless, I almost fell asleep. I have a high tolerance for discomfort! They heated me up to 41* or 42*

  • January 26, 2011

    by marta

    Hi Stephanie, as I explained in the post on the first treatment. Pelleve is virtually painless - certainly compared to Thermage or Fraxel. The reason being is that the temperatures used are much lower. So there was no need for any pain relievers. A gloopy gel is used supposedly to conduct the frequencies. Pictures were taken before the first treatment, but not yesterday.

  • January 26, 2011

    by Stephanie

    What was the prep for this treatment? Did you use/they apply any topical anesthetic?

    I tried Fraxel a few years ago to help with a scar on my chest as well as wrinkling, and was treated with a numbing agent before hand. I sat with a thick blue gel across my décolletage (including neck) for an hour before the treatment, and the pain was just barely tolerable.

    I imagine they did before pictures prior to your first treatment. Did they do another round before this one?


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