Last I saw this article was still valid science. It appears that this item being marketed isn't exactly what it is claiming to be chemically. Quat Salts would definitely account for the activity of the material working - but it doesn't match the description of what the product is reported publicly to be made of. So I'm not sure I'd believe the description to be accurate. I've seen other boards comments where they manufacturer claims this study was funded by a competitor but I haven't seen any denial on the chemistry.

Anyone tell me if this study something to be concerned about? I am no sure if I understand this? Can you please advise if this has been resolved? Don't want to rub didecyldimethylammonium salts on my skin. Thank you in advance.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25779084

Here's the link to the updated CEN article (saying leuconostoc/radish root ferment filtrate turned out NOT to be responsible for the Badger recall): http://cen.acs.org/articles/92/i23/Close-Scrutiny-Cosmetic-Preservatives-Continues.html

As of June 2014, the Chemical & Engineering website's article, 'Close Scrutiny of Cosmetics,' was updated. Turns out that it was NOT leuconostoc/radish root ferment filtrate, but Arborcide OC that Badger Company used in the products that were recalled. Good to know.

Poofy Supernaturals - also uses Leuconostoc Ferment Filtrate in their hand lotions I am happy to say.

I have concerns over the use of this preservative - are you aware that Badger had to recall some of it suncreams containing this ingredient in 2013?

http://cen.acs.org/articles/92/i23/Close-Scrutiny-Cosmetic-Preservatives-Continues.html

Hi everyone, I just jumped on board while looking for natural preservatives. Does this Leucidal really work?? I'm a newbee at making lotions and have been using: potassium sorbate, citric acid and cinnamon, along with green tea and either vit e or rosemary antioxidant oil. I'm still learning but have been selling to friends and co-workers for their feed back and they love my lotions. They have been lasting at least 2-3 months out of the refrigerator. How long of a shelf life will Leucidal give??

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I recently tried the new leucidal pt from formulator sample shop my testing came back and it is perfect. i used elderberry that works in my oil systems i receved an email code from them for free shipping and its code 6567 i would imagine they offfer to all their customers but i am not sure

I love using this stuff, But this article is old.. Since then they came out with a newer version that can be used in organic formulations it works in my lotions and testing came out fine - here is the link
http://www.formulatorsampleshop.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FSSM15010

No preservative? Unless I did chemistry in mars they use Sodium benzoate I quote: has the chemical formula NaC6H5CO2; it is a widely used food preservative, with E number E211. Then there’s zinc oxide I quote dioxide has recently been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as an IARC Group 2B carcinogen ''possibly carcinogen to humans''
Then there’s AHA Fruit Acids full front page in England of the daily express for causing skin cancer
Hello anyone out there

Hello!
It's been a while and I'm excited to circle back to this post and earlier questions from Junko and Susan.

If you happen to notice, this story about radish root played an important role in the latest round of formula upgrades for the new Control just now coming available.

Control is now using Leucidal (radish root ferment) instead of other preservatives.

This change in Control's formula happened, in particular, because of TIA and this post. Kudos and thanks!

On a side note to Julie K (if you're reading, Julie) your voice also contributed to changes in the peptides used in Control. TIA impact at it's best!

Thank you!
-Darrell (here at YBF)

I get this Leucidal & their new one Leucidal SF from FormulatorSampleShop.com
It's been an awesome preservative. They also came out with an organic preservative
I received an email offer with their specials and i used code 6566 at checkout to apply to FREE SHIPPING!

Was researching this Leucidal since discovering it is an organic preservative and ALSO a peptide, that appeals to me! I'm excited to try it actually so off to order Sevani and will report back if interested!

So cool to see you all discussing Sevani skin care products! I have been researching their vegan beauty products for some time now and finally ordered a few items last week. They came fast, look beautiful and most importantly, I already see a difference in my skin! Just FYI I've been using the Eye Repair Cream, Daily Mineral Age Defense SPF 20, and their Ageless Radiance AHA cleanser.

Oh, another thing I found and really like about Sevani is that I feel great about spending my money to support a skin care company obviously working hard to do the right thing for their customers and the planet - putting our money where our mouth is seems to be the biggest voice we have now a days so being sure you're getting what you want and need while supporting companies doing business with a conscience is really important in my opinion! (off soap box now : )

Anyway - thanks so much for your great work and info!

Lets see if it actually 'firms the face' before we get excited about the preservative. If it doesn't work, it doesn't matter to me. Age 62 and starting to sag....

I would love to try Savani's new product for you --I am a big fan of HA and would like to see how this compares to the other products I use with HA in them

I would love to try Savani cream as I am against all those uglies [preservatives] in creams.

Fantastic! Anytime I can ditch preservatives, I do. Why? It started with wanting to have low toxicity products for my kids, then I realized I didn't want this stuff on ME either! I cut as many preservatives out of my personal care and make-ups as possible, and guess what? The hormonal and chemical imbalances and huge emotional swings I have experienced since my teens disappeared! It was totally unexpected result!

Natural anti-aging? I'm in. I'd LOVE to give it a try. As always your research is very much appreciated.

I would love to try the Sevani product as well. Radishes? That's a new ingredient :) Put me on the list for testing and reviewing.

I would love to try Sevani as well

i would love to try sevani products!

You're the BEST Darrell * fingers crossed that your test drive goes well !!

Marta,

Since you will be testing Sevani products over the next few weeks, I would really appreciate it if you would consider doing a review of the Daily Mineral Age Defense SPF20.

Hi Junko!
My verdict is still out as I need to read up more on the ingredient and give it a test drive.

-Darrell

I thought you might chime in here Darrell, and I'm glad you did.
Kindly clarify for us...does it seem that Radish Root might protect against all 3 or just the fungus among us again??

This is indeed, exciting!

The catch always, from a formulator perspective, is finding a preservative that's safe -- and that protects from all three nasties: BACTERIA, FUNGUS, YEAST.

That's often the catch with natural preservative in that they will protect against fungus but not bacteria or yeasts, which is SO important and I think is something that gets overlooked.

-Darrell

I love it too, Junko! Adding to your comment, I bet they'd make more money, as their consumer base would grow.

I love it!! Now, if cosmetic companies would use these natural preservatives in lieu of toxic ones, they'd be making giant steps towards keeping us healthy!